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melannen ([personal profile] melannen) wrote2021-08-01 11:42 pm

100 days of enemy recs: 7. MacGyver

MacGyver was a 1980s TV show in which a young Richard Dean Anderson was very competent and solved problems. I think he was sort of a consulting secret agent, the way Holmes was a consulting detective? He worked for a place called the Phoenix Foundation and was sent around the world to, like, help people who were being menaced. But don't worry even on his days off he still ended up in situation where he had to be very competent and solve problems.

I actually did watch a considerable amount of this show in reruns in the late aughties! I never did get more than a very vague idea of the setup or, indeed, anything except a very young RDA being ludicrously competent at everything and making the world better. It was one of those shows from back when every episode had to stand alone and they didn't have to make everything part of a giant mytharc where you have to have just binged the previous six seasons to know what's going on - instead, nobody expected you to ever know what was going on, and that was fine, just watch RDA be competent and pretty. (Am I the only one who misses those days?) You had to catch certain very specific episodes if you wanted any kind of backstory or character arc, and I think I missed most of them. The theme music was very good, it was my ringtone for awhile, and RDA was very competent and determined and ethical and pretty.

(There was also a reboot? That ran six seasons and only just ended? I know zilch about it. It does not seem to have made much of a splash.)

There isn't a ton of fanfic for it and I have read even less, but a lot of what exists is MacGyver/Murdoc. Don't ask me to remember anything about Murdoc either - he's some kind of recurring antagonist? An assassin? Works for the bad guys?

Anyway there is one M/M fic that's on my "never lose track of" list. I don't know that it's "good" by today's standards but sometimes you just want a really good oldfashioned h/c amnesiafic enemyslash extreme whump wallow, right? And this one is the best at being what it is. So only one link today. It's on insanejournal!

  • Oh My Enemy by [insanejournal.com profile] janecarnall
    21 chapters, MacGyver/Murdoc, explicit, needs Archive warnings for probably violence and torture and dubcon? Suicidal ideation. etc.

    Murdoc is released from the hospital, still partially disabled by his injuries, with no memory at all and his only link to his past and his identity the person who paid his hospitals bills: one Angus MacGyver, who must care a lot about him to do that for him. But when Murdoc shows up on MacGyver's doorstop, almost out of money and barely able to walk, MacGyver isn't acting like somebody who cares about him...

    (Note: if you follow the links on the chapters, they sometimes go back to a deleted LJ; keep clicking back to the memories linked in the rec and you can read it all.)


...hey, the first fandom on this list where I didn't have a tag!
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[personal profile] ageorwizardry 2021-08-02 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ahaha as I was scrolling down before I got to the rec this was THE STORY I was thinking of! I actually thought at some point I had tried to find it online again and couldn't anymore (maybe I wasn't keeping the right track of which lj clones had gone kaput), which made me pretty glad that I had already downloaded it (copying the text chapter by chapter!) back in the day.
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[personal profile] nicki 2021-08-02 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I would've thought there would be Mac/Jack fic?

I watched Macgyver faithfully week in and week out, as much as I could (part of the time we were in Europe and only got the syndicated episodes on Armed Forces Network, so I think I missed like one season? when we moved back stateside.) I always had the feeling that the Phoenix Foundation was an environmental foundation of some kind, at least to start off with. And, yes, Murdoc was definitely a villain. Also, Mac was very against guns. He never used them, even when he came across them or took them from bad-guys, mostly he just emptied the bullets out and threw them in the nearest body of water (or similar). We didn't find out Mac's first name until the very last episode and it was A Thing. Teri Hatcher reoccurred as Penny Parker, so it was fun watching her career grow. Also, in the first(?) episode of Stargate SG1 Sam makes a joke about MacGyvering something.
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2021-08-02 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, iirc the first time we meet Murdoc in the series is not their first encounter but him coming back for revenge beause MacGyver foiled something or other at some point in the past, and then thought Murdoc was dead. And that's pretty much the pattern set up. It doesn't make much of a difference if you only catch the fourth appearance or whatever, because he's still back for revenge. Or I guess sometimes MacGyver foiled yet another assassination plot, but it's very much a supervillain kind of setup where you can tune in at any point to their relationship.
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2021-08-02 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I don't remember whether we got flashbacks to that first meeting at some later point or not, but the Murdoc introduction was just that he's an assassin who is trying to kill Mac in revenge, because he foiled him, and is now his nemesis (rather than moving on). Iirc the main motivation was injured pride? Like he was always successful in the past and then Mac ruined his unbroken streak, so he has to die. It's all very much like a comic book.
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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
the first appearance of Murdoc (in s2 ep "Partners") has flashbacks to the first time Mac meets Murdoc, Pete already knows him. This is also supposed to be the time Pete and Mac meet the first time (despite the s1 ep "Deathlock" saying Mac and Pete met in some situation with a camel - fans sometimes explain this away as being them lying but whatever).

first meeting flashbacks:
Mac is driving Jack's cab, filling in for whatever boneheaded reason Jack gave him. i think Pete hops into the cab and has Mac chase 'that woman' (Murdoc in disguise). Or whatever - something happens and they end up following Murdoc together and Mac foils Murdoc's plans.

episode main plot:
each of the 3 guys gets an invitation to meet at the junkyard and bring specific items with them. Peter and Mac think Jack set it up until they start going through the stuff in Jack's old cab that is still sitting in the junkyard (apparently 7 yrs later). Jack is late showing, but apparently Murdoc doesn't care - b/c he hauls the cab w/ Mac and Pete inside off to the middle of nowhere where he plans to blow them up.

obviously Murdoc's had a brainfart and has forgotten that MacGyver could get out of being sealed in concrete with a piece of fishing line and a bottle of bubbles, b/c Mac gets them out and then Murdoc blows his own self up when he drops his bundle o' dynamite.

then Jack bebops in all late with some flowers like 'hey guys!' and Mac and Pete make this face :/
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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Murdoc was definitely a villain but I have no memory of how or why he was a villain or who or what he was working for.

Murdoc is an assassin working for an organization known as H.I.T. - Homicide International Trust. his bosses get a little grumpy that he can't seem to complete his 'contract' to take out MacGyver - no idea when this was initially put out, that's not mentioned.


whenever they wanted to 'test' Mac's principles, they would bonk him on the head and give him amnesia. as a result, his 'basic' instincts would always come up and make him just do v MacGyver-y things. the poor man, in the real world, would have some serious traumatic brain injury going on.
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2021-08-02 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I would've thought there would be Mac/Jack fic?

From what I remember, the fandom was mostly gen (with a little het), but what slash there was, was mostly Mac/Murdoc, with Mac/Jack very much a rare pairing. I like buddy slash more than enemy slash, and remember looking for Mac/Jack but only finding slash with Murdoc. I also remember a couple of Mac/Murdoc zines being advertised but none for Mac/Jack.
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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
i will answer any and all of your MacGyver questions (as long as they relate to the original). i even have a (on hiatus) countdown of the episodes from least fave to most fave that you can find over yonder.

also - i think this is the only Mac/Murdoc fic i've ever read... and it exists on my kindle b/c i dl'd it - i think to finish reading it while traveling.

there was a reboot - it was not good. =( the actor they picked for Mac was fine and could've done really well if the writing/concept/whatever hadn't been.... just.... bad. i only managed like 3 episodes before i had to give up. also - RDA *loathed* the reboot and refused to go anywhere near it from my understanding.
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[personal profile] samjohnsson 2021-08-02 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)

The problem wasn't the gadgets, the problem on the reboot was that it was CBS's stock "More explosions, sexiness, and dubious ethics". It lost all of the soul of the original.

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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
mostly this... and also that it wasn't initially designed as a MacGyver reboot - it was some randomass show and Lenkov went 'ooooh - if we slap some MacGyver on it, ppl will flock to it!'. with the first incarnation of his bullshit, there was some super huge backlash. so Lenkov tried to 'fix' it (insert laughter snort here) - and turned it into the bullshit that aired. none of which is remotely 'MacGyver'. and their Murdoc story made me cry =(

there WAS a follow-on several years ago called 'Young MacGyver' w/ Jared Padelecki as the new MacGyver. it.... was not good. JP was fine - the writing was traaaaaaaash. but it was at least trying to keep the 'faith' of the show.
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[personal profile] samjohnsson 2021-08-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)

All of CBS's reboots have been...hit or miss. Magnum PI actually did some decent things, and the original flavor FBI is decent as CBS cop shows go, and I've heard good things about SWAT if you can deal with the genre. And well, H50, for the first few seasons before the shark got jumped. But some of the reboots have been bad. Very. Very. Bad.

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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah - i only watched H50 and, well, it was okay for a couple seasons, then it got long in the tooth, then the network got moar ebil.... i gave up long before Park and Kim left.
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[personal profile] twistedchick 2021-08-02 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The newer six-year MacGyver show had none of the wit, charm or good writing of the original. I watched the original weekly on its first run, and liking Richard Dean Anderson in it is why I watched Stargate SG-1, later.
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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2021-08-02 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an amazing story and when I read it, it completely blew my mind. I bought the whole thing. Much later I watched a few of the episodes that it refers to, but you really don't need much canon at all to understand.

Yeah Murdoc was a recurring villain who did some truly reprehensible things to Macgyver and his family, which makes the enemy slash a very hard sell. But this story did sell it.
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[personal profile] highlander_ii 2021-08-02 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
the cool thing about Murdoc is that he wasn't necessarily 'evil' (he wasn't a good guy, but he wasn't evil), he was just doing his job. granted, his job was 'assassin'. and his whole gig was he was angry that he couldn't complete his contract on MacGyver b/c Mac thwarted him every time. yes, Murdoc was trying to kill MacGyver, but, he liked the game, so he would never just walk up and pop the guy - he wanted Mac to know it was Murdoc and would set up these elaborate things just to watch Mac do his thing. (can ttly see where ppl would go with the whole slash-tastic-ness on that - Murdoc won't kill Mac b/c he <3's him)
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[personal profile] cahn 2021-08-02 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh maaaaan, I adored MacGyver and Murdoc/MacGyver was my first elementary-school enemy ship (and I did watch all the Murdoc episodes,they were my faves) before I even understood what slash or an enemy ship would be. (In my fic -- because of course I wrote fic of it -- they never got together romantically, because see also the part where I didn't understand the concept of slash, but they were totally obsessed with each other.)