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So I was reading a metafandom thread whining how EBUL it is to steal fanart to use in vids without asking permission first!
Part of the grand tradition of "It's all fair use! Unless it's what *I* produce, in which case it's STEELING!" I get *really* sick and tired of hearing that.
I do tend to give somewhat more leeway to fanartists1 on that, because what they do, at least with books and live-action fandoms, can be more comprehensively transformative than fic tends to be, and also harder to control once it's out there. (And they tend to do more buying and selling, which has *always* puzzled me - as far as I know fanart is no more protected than fic, so why do we buy and sell it when that's anathema for fic? Especially the fanart that's basically direct copies of stills, whether traced or not, but that's a different rant.)
What really got me today is someone I generally respect posting with a comics icon and saying she didn't credit the artist for the icon - which was just a simple crop, no alteration - because that was canon, but it's still horribly bad to not credit all fanartists every time!
What?
I see this fairly often, and it *always* gets me, particularly when people post comics icon bases to share, and insist that *they* get credited for them, but often don't even bother to *name* the penciller or anybody else who worked on the original art. Because *clearly*, scanning and cropping is far more work than producing the art in the first place, and anyway indy comics artists make so much money and have so much name recognition already that they don't need to get paid in whuffie. Right?
(For the record, since JF doesn't have icon comments available yet andI'm too lazy to look up all the credits again anyway, the art in the default icons I've been using lately is by Robbie Rodriguez of Oni Press. And it's made of win. And when I finally get around to posing the iconset to share, I'm going to request that if people credit anyone, they credit the original artists.)
1and by fanartists I here mean people who draw. People who do only manips are a whole nother kettle of black.
Part of the grand tradition of "It's all fair use! Unless it's what *I* produce, in which case it's STEELING!" I get *really* sick and tired of hearing that.
I do tend to give somewhat more leeway to fanartists1 on that, because what they do, at least with books and live-action fandoms, can be more comprehensively transformative than fic tends to be, and also harder to control once it's out there. (And they tend to do more buying and selling, which has *always* puzzled me - as far as I know fanart is no more protected than fic, so why do we buy and sell it when that's anathema for fic? Especially the fanart that's basically direct copies of stills, whether traced or not, but that's a different rant.)
What really got me today is someone I generally respect posting with a comics icon and saying she didn't credit the artist for the icon - which was just a simple crop, no alteration - because that was canon, but it's still horribly bad to not credit all fanartists every time!
What?
I see this fairly often, and it *always* gets me, particularly when people post comics icon bases to share, and insist that *they* get credited for them, but often don't even bother to *name* the penciller or anybody else who worked on the original art. Because *clearly*, scanning and cropping is far more work than producing the art in the first place, and anyway indy comics artists make so much money and have so much name recognition already that they don't need to get paid in whuffie. Right?
(For the record, since JF doesn't have icon comments available yet and
1and by fanartists I here mean people who draw. People who do only manips are a whole nother kettle of black.
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and I usually think those icons are ugly, and that can be a little different, and I still want a credit to the original.)And while I don't think I've ever made icons of other people's fanart, I've made a lot of webcomics ones, some from back in the day when the distinction between a webcomic a and fancomic was sometimes not there at all, which I think is part of the reason I'm so sensitive to people making the distinction.
JF has keywords, but I don't like mixing those with credits info. They don't have the separate comments field like LJ, as far as I can tell. Presumably it'll appear with the code update, and I'll have to suck it up and go back and look up the pencillers on every comic book that I stripped for icons.
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Weird. I know my icon page has comments as well as keywords.
(Unrelatedly, I also hate when people don't credit their icons just because sometimes I'm struck by a really nice icon and I want to find the source.)
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