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A Game
1. RE: current events in Homestuck:
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
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Then there was the cave.
And then I don't know if Tony remembered his wizardry or just all the feelings that went with it. It's kind of more interesting if he's still forgotten, but he's using Speech in the way he talks to JARVIS and codes and designs the suit. Stuck somewhere in between, no manual, not knowing there are others, but with enough echoes of knowledge to do spectacular things. But if wizardry only lives in a willing heart, he just got real willing again.
The others... Natasha being made to forget is story and a half. That's a good one. They'd keep trying to wipe out her name and put a new one in, and she'd keep trying to keep something back and write herself.
And the bit about Asgard and Timeheart seems right.
But I feel like the ones with known superpowers have them instead of wizardry. So Steve might be a result, but not a wizard. If he was a wizard he would know how to serve without having to pick up a gun, he could get himself out to the war and make a difference a lot of ways, he wouldn't have been so dead set on getting into the army. Carrying a power around without having a clue though, that I could see.
Hulk as a wizard... Hulk is a lot younger than Bruce. Bruce would be puny in comparison. It's kind of LOL scary.
Wizardry is a more diversified toolkit than most superheroes use. And there's more ways to serve than to be wizards.
Coulson's the most obvious wizard because he's subtle and just talks to people most of the time... and then faces off with giant killer robots and comes out of it unruffled. He'd like to have something up his sleeve.
I read the discussion of Tony's Name and had a horrible sinking feeling Tony would, like, reflexively try and rewrite his own code. With as much care as working on JARVIS, sure, but of course he'd want to upgrade himself. That would be like the first thing he'd do. And if other people were asking him the questions, he'd lie like magazine interviews. That shell has way too much practice. So one way or another his Name could end up kind of a mess.
... maybe Extremis is what happens when he finally rewrites himself...
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I think I just have him coded in my mind as the one who doesn't have magic powers, and my first instinct is to keep it that way, to keep him as someone like Carmela who's really good at using wizardry as a tool and working in tandem with wizards, and has some abilities, but isn't a wizard proper (of course, Carmela may get the Oath yet...) If you posit Howard and Obie as both being failed wizards, he'd have grown up around the remnants of wizardry and magic without really knowing what it means...
And OMG, yes, Tony's Name. That would be such a mess.
RE Steve: I dunno. I was going on the fact that his childhood was pretty much a stereotypical wizard's childhood (lots of staying home with books, standing up to bullies when he has no chance...) I don't think 'wanting to be a soldier' is incompatible with wizardry, especially in the milieu of the early '40s (especially given that this whole post was inspired by DD posting about wizards in the military.)
And OMG, Bruce and Hulk are both wizards but Hulk is a lot younger so he's way, way more powerful? That works too well.