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A Game
1. RE: current events in Homestuck:
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
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How does one deal with canons with conflicting conceptions of wizardry? I'm thinking about the Dresden Files, for instance, and I'm pretty sure Hendricks is a wizard, but I'm not sure about the rest.
Also, I love your Avengers ones.
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There are two ways of dealing with conflicting conceptions of wizardry: if they're close enough to YW's concept, you fudge it, and say it's wizardry under Oath, just it works a little differently in that universe. Or you take in the Tale of the Five rules, and say that there's Wizardry, which is YW-style stuff/wreaking, and then there's Sorcery, which is just doing magic. Or you say the whole place is Overshadowed, and all wizardry has been distorted by the Lone Power. :D
When I play with Dresden Files, I go with Option Two, and separate the wizardry stuff Harry does from Oath wizardry. The White Council is not entirely aware that there's another whole organization of wizardry operating right under their noses, although some of the White Council wizards are also under Oath (Rashid the Gatekeeper and Luccio, I'm thinking particularly) and some of the others are aware without being sworn (Eb, for example.)
I'm not really sure who else is a wizard, though, except Hendricks, definitely. And probably Malcolm Dresden. And the Knights of the Cross, almost always (Murphy is going to take her Oath really, really late, if she ever gets around to it.) And Charity Carpenter used to be but gave up her Wizardry at the same time she gave up her wizardry, but probably at least a couple of her kids are.
Harry, on the other hand, is mostly mixing it up directly with the Powers-that-be, who are all assholes in this universe. :P I think possibly he was meant to be under Oath, but on their Ordeal, he sacrificed his Wizardry so that Elaine could live and keep hers. So the Powers were forced to give him access to Soulfire directly instead. Possibly his wizardry is locked away somewhere in the mess that is the inside of his head, and he'll regain it completely at the apropos moment.
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I agree with all of those. I think the Paranet ends up pretty closely connected with the Oath wizards, too. And I also think there's something about Marcone -- I don't think he's a wizard, but something. Maybe he just knows (because of Hendricks) or maybe he gave it up?
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Marcone knows all. :P I'm pretty sure he's not a wizard, nor ever was - the sort of grey morality he's embraced tends not to be a wizard's strategy - but he's known about (and helped) Hendricks since they were both kids. He's probably had Powers meddling with him one way or another, though. (Actually, I wouldn't put it past him to be an Abdal. That kind of grey morality is totally the sort of thing the One gets up to sometimes.)