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A Game
1. RE: current events in Homestuck:
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
So "all ships are canon" + "shipping is cancelled for 2013" + trickster mode = 36-person group marriage, y/y/mfy? :D
2. Speaking of how all stories with romance in them should end with BIG GROUP MARRIAGE, Diane Duane tumbled about the canon YW/ST crossover, and now her fandom has suddenly realized OH HEY YW CROSSOVERS! They are all canon! :D
So let's play a game that I play sometimes in my head:
1. Pick one of your current fandoms.
2. Decide which characters in it are Wizards and/or carriers for Powers.
3. Profit!
Here's mine. Come argue about them with me in the comments! (Or post your own!)
Homestuck: All player characters are wizards. In fact, the Oath is hidden somewhere in the license agreement for Sburb; the game is one long Ordeal. (If you click through the license without reading it, or you use a pirate copy with the licenses stripped off, you may come into your powers a bit later than everyone else or not realize until too late what you've signed up for, but they're still all wizards. Or were, until Lord English gave himself wholly to the Lone Power.) Hussie's a wizard too. Dad isn't. The carapaces don't have wizards until the Game is over, and then most of the Exiles usually end up taking the Oath (and making a Choice.) The consorts don't Choose until after their Heroes appear, either, although they do have people who act in the role of wizards (like dogs had before Ponch.)
Frontier Wolf: Hilarion is a wizard, obviously, as are a higher-than-normal proportion of the other Frontier Wolves. So is Cunorix (but not Connla, and as the Britons are astafrith, it's another point of rivalry between them.) Alexios's uncle and mother are wizards too, and so was his father (that's how his parents met - his uncle and father were wizarding partners). Alexios himself, though, reads to me as someone who's lost his wizardry. I don't know why. It might have been even before Abusina, maybe. I don't know if he ever gets it back, either. The Romans are mostly sevarfrith, and that makes it harder.
(In Eagle of the Ninth, they're all wizards. All of them. Even Cub.)
Avengers: Avengers is haaard.
Okay, so: Tony isn't. He's the only Avenger who isn't, in fact. But he doesn't have enough faith in anything outside himself (he might carry more than a touch of that Power who stole the knowledge of metal-working, though.) JARVIS is a wizard though, obviously, the first wizard of his kind; he hasn't had to Choose yet. Yinsen was. Rhodey is. Obie may have been once, but he was Overshadowed and lost long ago; by the time we meet him, he belongs fully to the Lone Power. Pepper and Happy, I think, aren't.
Coulson is. Clint is. Natasha is, though she came to her wizardry late (or maybe had it early but was made to forget it, again and again and again, until Clint gave it back to her for good.) They're wizarding partners too of course. Fury was a wizard when he was very, very young, but he handed back his Oath a long, long time ago, and doesn't regret it (he knows all about wizardry still, though.)
Bruce is a wizard; when he's out walking the world, he's usually on errantry. So's Betty. Hulk isn't. Or, well, Hulk isn't yet.
Steve's a wizard. Howard Stark was, but lost his wizardry at some point after Steve knew him, and handled it poorly. Peggy I suspect wasn't. Erskine wasn't, but he had friends who were, and knows a wizard when he sees one. Bucky I can't decide about! (Maybe he was a wizard too, but he and Steve went on Ordeal separately, never told each other, and never realized they both were?)
Darcy, Jane, and Selvig are all wizards; the wormhole project is at least half a wizardly intervention, although there really ought to be more cats involved. The Asgardians are tricky, because Asgard is much closer to Timeheart than Earth is, and it's very easy for them to slip into and out of roles as incarnations of Powers, without realizing it; wizardry has a different meaning to such beings. (Unless you are Thor and just don't think about it that hard.)
The Thick of It: Ahahahaha. Phil's a wizard. Jamie was and lost it, but in a way where he got to remember. Sam is. Julian is. ...I think that may be it. Malcolm shares headspace with a Power, but I'm not sure which one. It may not be sure which one.
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And YES, on Frodo and Sam and all the other hobbits (Fatty either had his ordeal during the Harrowing, or was already a wizard before it all started.) I don't think Frodo could have borne the Ring like he did if he were a wizard. Poor Sam though.
I think the Nandor in general have fewer wizards than other Elves, and the Dwarves (traditionally) have fewer yet, but there were more Dwarven wizards than usual, toward the end of the Third Age. Gimli and Legolas both are, yes.
Aragorn I think would have taken his oath early and gladly; but almost all of the Rangers are wizards, so it's not so special a thing, for them. He spent a long time thinking he'd have to give up his Wizard's Oath if he ever became King, though. (It turned out that he didn't.)
Boromir I think does have a vague idea of the wizardry thing, through his brother and father, but that's the problem - it's vague and distorted and he's just sort of flailing toward an ideal that was never meant to be his.
I'm with you on the Rohirrim.
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I think you're probably correct on the racial divisions. Elves tend to wizardry though I bet their Ordeals come thick and fast in times of war and get very... personal? During times of peace. I haven't read the Sil in awhile, so my timeline is perhaps not as square as it could be.
Headcanon accepted on Aragorn and Boromir. Poor Boromir.
(Now Kitty has me working on B5. DAMMIT.)
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B5!
Ivanova isn't a wizard, she just arranges them to within an inch of their life. It's an agreement with a Power that she browbeat it into.
G'Kar not only took his Oath but WROTE A VERSION OF IT for the Alliance.
Londo learned of wizardry when he came to B5, I think, but never understood what all the fuss was about and kept teetering on the edge of being the Lone Power's until he finally fell off.
Vir, however, found out through reading Londo's notes and totally took the Oath.
Delenn took her Oath and made her Ordeal as part of earning her place on the Grey Council. Though I think it was one of those prolonged Ordeals that wasn't complete until she met Sinclair and used the triluminary on him. Which was also his Ordeal. Most religious caste Minbari are wizards, really, it's not a big thing for them.
Zathras serves a Power but isn't a wizard. Any of him. And the Power, of course, is the machine/Draal.
Lennier flunked his Ordeal. Most of the Rangers take the Oath as part of their initiation, but not all complete their Ordeal. Which covers Marcus, who did complete his Ordeal but came out of it rather brittle.
Na'Toth is not, I think, a wizard - few Narns are, though that's related to the harrowing of the telepath population.
Speaking of telepaths, Bester totally ignored the Oath's call and went over to the Lone Power early on. He doesn't even know he's done it. (He missed the call and thought it was a telemarketer.)
Vorlons and Shadows BOTH went over to the Lone Power without knowing it. The Shadows focus on the Ordeal and the Vorlons focus on the Oath. Which explains why so few Narns. No Oath, no wizards. Under control of the Centauri, who also have precious few wizards. I think precious few Centauri are even aware of wizardry. They'd class it up there with religion and poo-poo it.
Timov refused the Oath on the ground that she'll do the work in her own damn good time thank you very much. Cartagia is obviously the Lone Power's. Refa I think flunked his Ordeal and went over.
Franklin nearly fucked up his Ordeal. But managed to pull it out, somehow.
Garibaldi knows about wizards even though he's not supposed to, but he won't take the Oath. Not that he was ever offered (he was bitter about that for awhile) but now he wouldn't.
Lorien is, of course, a Power.
Wizardry goes right over Zack's head, though he's noticed people doing Stuff. He just shakes his head and does the best he knows how, and the Lone Power keeps knocking on the back of his skull and wondering why no one's home.
Talia tried very hard to take the Oath and fulfill her Ordeal, I think, and ended up getting screwed over because nobody in the right position recognized what was going on.
Lyta the same but in reverse and maybe got a very very rare redo. See also, Lyta and G'Kar's Wacky Adventures in Space.
Kosh... made a bargain with a Power in order to break away from the rest of the Vorlons, and his entire stay on the station was his Ordeal.
Byron flunked the SHIT out of his Ordeal, assuming he ever took the Oath in the first place.
Sheridan probably took his Oath as part of his orders/swearing into command of the station. Then his Ordeal is painfully no-shit obvious, how you doin Sebastian.
Sebastian, who ... actually flunked his Ordeal and never quite realized it because Vorlons.
Galen's an excellent technician if everyone would bugger off and let him do his work.
Lochley is at minimum aware of wizardry but I think she has some of the same issues as Ivanova.
Neroon, who never does anything by halves, did Oath, Ordeal, and death all in one, because YAY RULE OF THREE.
Corwin is totally one of those very quiet wizards who makes everything work.
...I think I must not have mentioned Morden yet, but he's also a no-shit one of the Lone Power's. Sigh.
Re: B5!
Re: B5!
Re: Obligatory Tolkien/LotR Crossover is Obligatory
Or - did Fëanor fail his Ordeal? Because from what little I remember of YW, that would explain... a lot.
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