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melannen ([personal profile] melannen) wrote2018-01-10 01:44 pm
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FMK #33: Single-Author Anthologies

All right. FMK. Where were we? (Not on Tuesday, apparently.)

I have not read any new FMK books since the last time we had a poll, alas. I did a bunch of re-reading for Yuletide and a bunch of reading comics trades to try to make my Goodreads goal at the last minute (I was ten books down for the year after reading twenty on New Year's Eve. I blame FMK.) And then made the mistake of checking out more library books. On the plus side, I got less than ten new books for Christmas this year, which I think is a record. \o/

I did finally read the newest Young Wizards book, Games Wizards Play. I'd started it a few times and put it down because I was bored, which I did not like, because that's one of my favorite series, so I was afraid to try reading it again, but I finally blew through it for Yuleitde background, and I will admit to continuing to be bored most of the way through. Also I really, really don't like the increasing emphasis on wizarding dynasties and wizardry being primarily heritable. And I am so beyond tired of token ace characters showing up in YA just to cheerfully explain that just because they don't like sex doesn't mean they can't fall in love! It did redeem itself by a) sneaking an explicit sex scene into a series still marketed as junior-grade (There were orbital resonances!) and b) the revelation that DD has moved on to just blatantly trolling her fanbase on the question of Tom/Carl.

I have a lot of anthologies left, so this week is another anthology week! These are all single-author SF anthologies. Some of them are authors where I've read and liked their novels, some of them are classic authors where I haven't read much and felt like I needed a sampler. Hopefully I am correct about what kind of anthologies these are...

How FMK works, short version: I am trying to clear out my unreads. So there is a poll, in which you get to pick F, M, or K. F means I should spend a night of wild passion with the book ASAP, and then decide whether to keep it or not. M means I should continue to commit to a long-term relationship of sharing my bedroom with it. K means it should go away immediately. Anyone can vote, you don't have to actually know anything about the books.

I pick a winner on Friday night (although won't actually close the poll, people can still vote,) and report results/post the new poll on the following Tuesday, and write a response to the F winner sometime in the next week.

Link to long version of explanation (on first poll)


Poll #19296 FMK #33: Single-Author Anthologies
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 30


The Trouble With Humans by Christopher Anvil (2009)

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F
6 (54.5%)

M
1 (9.1%)

K
4 (36.4%)

Nightfall and Other Stories by Isaac Asimov (1969)

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F
16 (76.2%)

M
4 (19.0%)

K
1 (4.8%)

Moral Disorder by Margaret Atwood (2006)

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F
9 (52.9%)

M
3 (17.6%)

K
5 (29.4%)

Bradbury Classic Stories 2: Medicine for Melancholy and S is for Space by Ray Bradbury (1990)

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F
7 (43.8%)

M
6 (37.5%)

K
3 (18.8%)

The Other Side of the Sky by Arthur C. Clarke (1958)

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F
8 (50.0%)

M
4 (25.0%)

K
4 (25.0%)

...Who Needs Enemies? by Alan Dean Foster (1984)

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F
4 (44.4%)

M
1 (11.1%)

K
4 (44.4%)

What's It Like Out There? And Other Stories by Edmond Hamilton (1974)

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F
3 (30.0%)

M
0 (0.0%)

K
7 (70.0%)

Assignment in Eternity by Robert A. Heinlein (1971)

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F
9 (60.0%)

M
1 (6.7%)

K
5 (33.3%)

Werehunter by Mercedes Lackey (1999)

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F
10 (66.7%)

M
1 (6.7%)

K
4 (26.7%)

The Unreal and the Real by Ursula Le Guin (2012)

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F
8 (34.8%)

M
14 (60.9%)

K
1 (4.3%)

The Secret Books of Paradys 1 & 2 by Tanith Lee (1988)

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F
12 (75.0%)

M
3 (18.8%)

K
1 (6.2%)

The Tomb and Other Tales by H. P. Lovecraft (1965)

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F
7 (50.0%)

M
0 (0.0%)

K
7 (50.0%)

Playgrounds of the Mind by Larry Niven (1991)

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F
6 (46.2%)

M
1 (7.7%)

K
6 (46.2%)

Before the Universe by Frederick Pohl (1980)

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F
9 (69.2%)

M
0 (0.0%)

K
4 (30.8%)

A Blink of the Screen by Terry Pratchett (2012)

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F
10 (47.6%)

M
9 (42.9%)

K
2 (9.5%)

Resnick's Menagerie by Mike Resnick (2012)

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F
5 (41.7%)

M
0 (0.0%)

K
7 (58.3%)

Men, Martians, and Machines by Eric Frank Russell (1955)

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F
4 (36.4%)

M
2 (18.2%)

K
5 (45.5%)

Next Stop the Stars by Robert A. Silverberg (1977)

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F
6 (50.0%)

M
1 (8.3%)

K
5 (41.7%)

The Worlds of A. E. van Vogt by A. E. van Vogt (1974)

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F
5 (41.7%)

M
1 (8.3%)

K
6 (50.0%)

The Doors of his Face, the Lamps of his Mouth and other stories by Roger Zelazny (1971)

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F
10 (58.8%)

M
3 (17.6%)

K
4 (23.5%)


thawrecka: (Gundam Wing)

[personal profile] thawrecka 2018-01-10 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I really loved Nightfall and Other Stories when I was a kid. I'm not sure I could read it now, but it's probably worth a night of reading passion.
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[personal profile] ellen_fremedon 2018-01-10 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Voted F for the Tanith Lee. I have not read any of the Secret Books of Paradys, but [personal profile] rushthatspeaks had a post about them a while ago that left me thinking I would either love them or find them maddeningly incomprehensible.
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[personal profile] lannamichaels 2018-01-10 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
So I had to look up which one was Assignment in Eternity and which stories were in it, and it turns out I have actually READ THIS ONE IN THIS FORM, and in fact, can identify when it was and where I was when I was reading it, which is a total trip. ANYWAY, I recommend reading it. Elsewhen is kind of a mindfuck about alternate/parallel realities and, when you go there, becoming the person you might have been if you'd been born there originally and then NOT AUTOMATICALLY SWITCHING BACK when you get home. Jerry Was A Man was kind of a polemic, iirc, but I've seen it get brought up on things like "when are robots actually real people" discussions. And in Lost Legacy, humans manage to think themselves into flying. Those were all memorable. I still don't really remember Gulf, even after reading the wiki summary, except that's vaguely similar to other Heinlein stuff. (The speedtalk thing triggered the "oh, right, I remember that bit" without actually remembering anything else about the plot.)

Anyway, fuck that one.

I'd never heard of A Blink of the Screen by Terry Pratchett, but wiki says it's got Discworld stories in it, so THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION :D I'll see about if my library has a copy or something. I'm still holding out on reading the last Tiffany book, so hey, new-to-me Discworld stuff! :D

The only other one I have any opinions are authors I hold a grudge against. ;)
Edited 2018-01-10 20:07 (UTC)
lannamichaels: Astronaut Dale Gardner holds up For Sale sign after EVA. (Default)

[personal profile] lannamichaels 2018-01-10 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)

lol, yeah ;)

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[personal profile] katherine 2018-01-11 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
A Blink of the Screen is a nice big hardcover full of stories! (Well presumably also a paperback, but I found it in the library in hardcover, taking up some inches of shelf and have lugged it home more than once.) It's about half Discworld and half various other interesting things. The horror of Christmas cards short might be my favourite.
Edited 2018-01-11 05:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] beatrice_otter 2018-01-11 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
I voted "K" for werehunter because I read it once but it made so little impression on me that I have no idea what it's even about.

Also K for the Niven because Niven.
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[personal profile] katherine 2018-01-11 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
Werehunter is one of those free Baen ebooks which probably means I have it in my comptuer somewhere and read it at some point also. From the title it's maybe the one with the werecat was it story or filky song that came first I remember not.
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[personal profile] extrapenguin 2018-01-11 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Niven's creepy seeped into his writing more. Asimov was readable and even in hindsight doesn't have too many ??? moments; Niven has more of them both absolutely and in relation to his body of work. Also, Nightfall is a classic and also good, whereas the Niven collection doesn't seem to have such a head story and seems to have a lot of excerpts.

Mind, I still want you to go F for the Niven collection, if only so I can read your reaction to it – I'm not sure whether I read that particular collection, but I've read the prior collection of his shorts (N-Space) and did devour quite a lot of his fiction back when I was 13 and didn't know better.
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[personal profile] landofnowhere 2018-01-12 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
(Lurker who's been enjoying following this series and voting)

I voted F on Asimov and K on Niven because I like Asimov's writing and haven't read Niven, and I tend to vote K if I don't have a reason to be enthusiastic about the work. (I also wasn't really aware that Niven had A Reputation.)

I also don't think "smart enough to realize he was terrible at writing women" is quite what's going on in Asimov: I think there's a split where early Asimov (the stuff from the '50s) is OK at writing women, but he mostly doesn't see the point of putting them in his stories. Whereas when he gets back to writing novels in the '80s (eg the Foundation prequels and sequels), he's happy to include female characters, but the treatment is *super* cringeworthy, especially knowing what Asimov was like IRL.

(I mean, I like Dors Venabili, but she deserves a *much* better resolution to the "Hari Seldon won't stop hitting on her" plotline.)
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[personal profile] beatrice_otter 2018-01-12 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
Asimov was a creep to women in person, but no worse at writing women than other authors of his era. Also, I have enjoyed reading some of his stories. Also, his politics have never hit me over the head in a story I've read. (I've mostly read his Robot series.)

None of those things can be said of Niven. I've tried reading a couple, but the women were noticeably poorly-written as compared to his contemporaries, I didn't enjoy the stories or find them interesting, AND I felt like I got hit over the head by politics.
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[personal profile] the_rck 2018-01-12 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a lot of older, pulpy stuff here that I'm pretty sure would make me see red if I came upon it unprepared.

For A.E. van Vogt, I've read Slan, and I think I read a couple of others that have completely vanished from my memory. I read Slan at 11 or 12, and I think that was the right age because I got into the adventure side and didn't shriek with rage at the sexism (just plain didn't notice because it was the 1970s) or really notice that protagonist had no depth because I was the right age to project depth onto him.

At any rate, I voted F for that book because pulp can be fun. I just also think that that one and several of the others are more in the realm of 'meet somewhere public for coffee and then decide whether or not to give your real name' than they are straight up F's. Or maybe 'Find a hotel room, but for God's sake, use protection!' instead?

I voted K on Lovecraft because when I try to hack my way through his prose, I get beyond cranky. I just don't fit with him stylistically. And that's quite apart from the questions of -isms in his work. I haven't gotten deep enough into any of his work to see any of that because I tend to have book meets wall moments in the first handful of sentences.

I have liked some of Eric Frank Russell's novels. He tends to the over-competent man syndrome (which I take as meaning 'Mary Sue but no girl cooties') with a good bit of either being prepared for each eventuality or having no problems rolling with them. My recollection is that there's humor, some of it fairly biting, but it's been at least twenty five years, so I might be misremembering why I kept his books.

I'm not keen on Pohl, Niven, or Lee. For Lee, I'm pretty sure it's that the things she found important/interesting in stories aren't quite the things I find important/interesting. Pohl and Niven go the same way for me, really, except that I tend to look at their stories and wonder why anyone at all would read them. I understand why people read Tanith Lee; I don't get Pohl and Niven so much. I've read more Niven than Pohl because my father liked Niven, but I generally found myself asking why I should be bothering to spend time with the characters in the stories when they were terrible people in a way that I found boring. I don't mind terrible people as characters as long as they're fun to spend time with.

I know I've read the Zelazny (pretty sure I own it), but I can never remember his short stories after I read them. Well, I remember the style and a certain amount of beauty, but the plots evaporate because they're pretty much never the point. I read a biography of Zelazny that was published while he was alive and based mostly on interviews with him. Zelazny stated outright that he pretty much never knew where a story was going to end up when he started writing it.
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[personal profile] snickfic 2018-01-14 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
A poll where I have a bunch of opinions! My strongest are these: Resnick is a saccharine writer with no redeeming features, and Zelazny is my favorite SFF short story writer bar none. The Doors of His Face, The Lamps of His Mouth is one of my favorite collections of his. His language is delightful, and his stories nearly all have this wistfulness about them that really appeals to me.