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Have now watched Victoria's Secret (after a short hiatus caused by MY SISTER BREAKING MY LAPTOP.)
My primary reaction -- and I realize I am not normal, and of course it doesn't help that I was thoroughly spoiled, although how did I not know about Ray's dad from the fanfic! Anyway I now want EmperorOfTheArcticNights!Fraser fic. (And if you actually have the right fandoms to get that reference, I love you forever.)
...Because, dude, when he's with a woman he's actually *interested* in, he's /smooth/, and he didn't get that way from one week in a snowstorm and some adolescent hockey fumblings. I want the story where the only thing that made Victoria different from all the others was that he had regrets about how he ended it. I want "Well, Ray, one thing you quickly learn in the territories is that when there are opportunities around, you make the most of them" and "a gentleman doesn't tell, Ray," x about 300. I want the story where the reason he doesn't mind spartan quarters is that he only rarely spends the whole night in them. I want the stories where he calls back all the women who give him their numbers, and makes it very clear that for reasons which don't need to be explored at this juncture, he can't offer them more than a companionable night or two, but if that's what they're looking for--.
Pls to be telling me where this fic is. (And no, the post-Victoria-letting-loose stories, while awesome, are beside the point. I want the story where's he's *always* been that way.)
Er, as for feminist shtuff - it was better than I expected but not as good as I hoped on that front. I quite like Victoria, though. Where are the stories where Victoria gets to be sympathetic? I mean, she's basically what Faith would've turned into if Angel had slept with her instead of listening to her, and she's hot (and not just because she reminds me of Cuddy), and she's tragic and she's no more evil than half the characters fandom falls for. But I think the best I've seen her get in fic is "I think she might've actually loved him, in her way" followed by painting her as a sadistic psychopath, which there is no evidence for in the episode, since everything she does is carefully, minimally plan to find her one way out of an impossible situation. (And she could have been so much crueller to Fraser. She could have treated him like Ray treats women...)
Of course, I liked Phoebe Green, too, and she probably *is* a sociopath. :P (Ooh, fic where Phoebe is tracking Victoria!And they run off together and have hot sex!)
My primary reaction -- and I realize I am not normal, and of course it doesn't help that I was thoroughly spoiled, although how did I not know about Ray's dad from the fanfic! Anyway I now want EmperorOfTheArcticNights!Fraser fic. (And if you actually have the right fandoms to get that reference, I love you forever.)
...Because, dude, when he's with a woman he's actually *interested* in, he's /smooth/, and he didn't get that way from one week in a snowstorm and some adolescent hockey fumblings. I want the story where the only thing that made Victoria different from all the others was that he had regrets about how he ended it. I want "Well, Ray, one thing you quickly learn in the territories is that when there are opportunities around, you make the most of them" and "a gentleman doesn't tell, Ray," x about 300. I want the story where the reason he doesn't mind spartan quarters is that he only rarely spends the whole night in them. I want the stories where he calls back all the women who give him their numbers, and makes it very clear that for reasons which don't need to be explored at this juncture, he can't offer them more than a companionable night or two, but if that's what they're looking for--.
Pls to be telling me where this fic is. (And no, the post-Victoria-letting-loose stories, while awesome, are beside the point. I want the story where's he's *always* been that way.)
Er, as for feminist shtuff - it was better than I expected but not as good as I hoped on that front. I quite like Victoria, though. Where are the stories where Victoria gets to be sympathetic? I mean, she's basically what Faith would've turned into if Angel had slept with her instead of listening to her, and she's hot (and not just because she reminds me of Cuddy), and she's tragic and she's no more evil than half the characters fandom falls for. But I think the best I've seen her get in fic is "I think she might've actually loved him, in her way" followed by painting her as a sadistic psychopath, which there is no evidence for in the episode, since everything she does is carefully, minimally plan to find her one way out of an impossible situation. (And she could have been so much crueller to Fraser. She could have treated him like Ray treats women...)
Of course, I liked Phoebe Green, too, and she probably *is* a sociopath. :P (Ooh, fic where Phoebe is tracking Victoria!
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As for your first request, I have a vid rec for you: Pour Some Sugar On Me (http://sdwolfpup.livejournal.com/399731.html?format=light) by