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Kaz ([personal profile] kaz) wrote in [personal profile] melannen 2013-01-16 07:30 pm (UTC)

I admit it's been a while since I read YW, so I'm not sure I have the right idea, but...

Silmarillion:

As mentioned above, Fëanor failed his Ordeal. None of his sons swore the Oath - any tendency towards wizardry was subsumed into filial piety and loyalty to, you know, the other Oath. (Although it is possible that it is being offered to Maglor now, looong after everything went to hell. He is having none of it.) Celebrimbor, I think, went for it; he had a lot of nervous questions about exactly how binding this is and unintended consequences, but in the end the idea of fighting against loss and having the power to do *good* to make up for his family was too appealing. Alas, he failed his Ordeal too.

Not too many of the Noldor leaving Aman were wizards, I think. Finrod definitely was (Finarfin too, for that matter) - I can just see him trying to help the early humans with their Choice! Turgon may have been? but if he was he lost his way. Same goes for Orodreth. Some came to it later, during their time in Middle-earth - Fingon and Fingolfin, perhaps? Galadriel came to it very late - in the Second Age, I think, after Ost-in-Edhil had fallen and when she was considering Nenya. Gil-galad was, as well.

Not sure about the Sindar. Thingol wasn't, I don't think, and I don't see Lúthien (or Beren, for that matter) although I could be convinced otherwise. Celeborn? Quite possibly. And Círdan is the wizardliest wizard that ever wizarded. He's so old he's lost almost all his power, but makes up for it in wisdom.

Túrin... failed his Ordeal. There's been a lot of that happening. Tuor's a wizard, though. As are Idril, Eärendil, Elwing and Elrond - there is a certain family tradition here! The whole Kinslaying at Sirion + begging help from the Valar thing may have been Elwing and Eärendil's Ordeal.

Puella Magi Madoka Magica:

...considering the reasoning behind magical girls, I am wondering if they're, like, bizarro alternate universe wizards (or overshadowed as hell?). Alternatively, possibly the problem in this series is in fact that there are no wizards around to stop this shit. Any other ideas?

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