"heterosexual women (let's face it, whether they identify as queer or not is irrelevant)"
I saw that post and had to take a break from what I was doing on account of being too angry to think (did you also see the bit later on where they talked about "queer" heterosexual, asexual and bisexual women? With the quotation marks around queer? And lumped us together and dismissed us? ARGH WTF). Thing to note: this post may have been the best thing since sliced bread, but the only thing I took away from it was RAAAAAGE.
I am wary of the tone argument, but I don't think it's the tone argument to say that if you are dismissing a marginalised group's lived experience in your post they are not very likely to listen to you and it is not likely to be a productive discussion, even if you *are* also marginalised.
ETA: And, you know, /what you said/ about queer people who have felt rejected by the gay and lesbian community not taking it well if gay people come into their community and tell them they are not queer enough or ignore their existence. I have issues. They are not going to become happier issues if you go and reproduce them in the space I use to get /away/ from that sort of shit.
ETA^2: And to make it clear, I think this discussion is /really damn important/, and I really wish I could take it in properly without essentially being constantly smacked by all sides.
no subject
I saw that post and had to take a break from what I was doing on account of being too angry to think (did you also see the bit later on where they talked about "queer" heterosexual, asexual and bisexual women? With the quotation marks around queer? And lumped us together and dismissed us? ARGH WTF). Thing to note: this post may have been the best thing since sliced bread, but the only thing I took away from it was RAAAAAGE.
I am wary of the tone argument, but I don't think it's the tone argument to say that if you are dismissing a marginalised group's lived experience in your post they are not very likely to listen to you and it is not likely to be a productive discussion, even if you *are* also marginalised.
ETA: And, you know, /what you said/ about queer people who have felt rejected by the gay and lesbian community not taking it well if gay people come into their community and tell them they are not queer enough or ignore their existence. I have issues. They are not going to become happier issues if you go and reproduce them in the space I use to get /away/ from that sort of shit.
ETA^2: And to make it clear, I think this discussion is /really damn important/, and I really wish I could take it in properly without essentially being constantly smacked by all sides.