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melannen ([personal profile] melannen) wrote2003-07-14 01:02 am

Decadence: Eating ice cream by candlelight in the bath at 2 AM

Today was a proper all-American summer Sunday: Got up early for church, then came home and changed to head out to the ol' ball game, where I ate popcorn and read comic books. Then out for dinner and ice cream. 'Twas fun. Then I fell asleep, 'til about ten pm. oh well.

The Baysox won, by the way.

The comic book was[livejournal.com profile] speakerender's. Went to his place last night for dinner and movie with various others for his birthday. Dinner was good; movie was Real Genius, which was also good, even if I'd heard all the best jokes before. Is it strange that I've met people just like Lazlo and Chris, but never anybody like Mitch? Are all smart people these days either headcases or slackers? Rock on! Also, the movie was incredibly sexist. All the guys are getting paid to work in the lab, right? The girl isn't, yet she's expected to hang around and do all the hard work and risky stuff, sans pay, for her boyfriend. I mean, normally I've no objection to portrayal of traditional gender roles, but that was just so blatant . . .

Right. Speaking of geekiness and gender roles, [livejournal.com profile] speakerender, aka Phoenix, also loaned me the X-Men Dark Phoenix Saga, which was what I was reading during the ball game today. I had been saying I wanted to read some actual X-men comics, after seeing the movies. I'd had a vague knowledge of them, imbibed from ambient popular culture, and I'd alway thought of Jean Grey as the boring one, the plain Jane of the X-men. Boring powers, boring name, in fact goes by her street name most of the time, boring appearance, usually in an incredibly boring relationship with the most boring male member of the team. So Phoenix told me to read the saga and I did, and I learned that Jean Grey is, in fact . . . incredibly boring. She even manages to be incredibly boring as the incarnation of chaos and destruction, which takes some doing. Also, she needs to meet Mara Jade. The saga was quite good, though. Incredible art, great writing, even the fights were interesting. The other characters were wonderful. I want to know who Kitty becomes. And I do, indeed, still have a crush on Beast. Nightcrawler's much different from the movie one; I wish they'd put in the fire-and-brimstone effect, that would have been groovy. Dr. X is still evil.They even managed to make Cyclops somewhat interesting in places. And the comic book reminds me far less of Pegasus in Flight than the movies did.

Let's see, other news. I'm now four days into my effort to wean myself off electric lights. Dad is convinced I'm going to burn the house down, and Mom has begun a crusade of turning on all the lights in the room I'm in, even if it's broad daylight. I'm enjoying myself. It does make one much more aware of the day outside, of one's other senses, of color and shadow and form. And I like candles. I thought it would help my sleep cycle, but oddly it seems to be messing it up. Reading by candlelight apparently does not put me to sleep as well as reading by electric light, even if it is one of dad's books about why Christ was a bodhisattva or the history of chemistry.

This is my first post from an lj-client. Let's see if it works.

[identity profile] speakerender.livejournal.com 2003-07-14 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Recall when the movie was made, the 80s. Also who was working in the lab and getting paid? Are you talking about Jordan helping Chris/Mitch? It isn't clear she is helping them on the laser and not just class, but none of them are getting paid, recall Mitch's dad asked if he was getting a "Signing Bonus" and Dr Hathoway replies that he isn't but that he gets to fill a better portion of his potential. Other then scholarships and they never mention if Jordan has one, which she probably does, I don't recall any of them getting paid (Chris' job was after graduation, and recall Kent got it temporarialy til they built the laser).

Kitty goes on to join the X-Men as a junior member, then hangs out with the New Mutants for a bit, and goes on to join Excaliber with Nightcrawler, Colosuss, and Phoenix (Racheal Summers, daughter of Jean Grey/Scott Summers from an alternate timeline) in England. She has since returned to the X-Men. I have a mini-series with Kitty and Wisdom (another character from Excaliber, he's a Black Ops guy in the British Government also a mutant) called Pryde and Wisdom. Kitty also has a decent part in the Age of Apoclypse story line (specifically as one of the teachers in 'Generation NeXt').

Other graphic novels I can let you read, about the X-men include: The X-Cutioner's Song, X-Tinction Agenda, then from the Age of Apocalypse: Generation Next, X-Calibre.

You might really like the Age of Apocalypse story arch, Professor X is killed in the past by his son Legion (David Haller). His son went back in time to kill Magneto (before he became Magneto), as he felt Magneto is the reason that Xavier's Dream of peaceful co-existance never took off. Xavier saves Magneto and dies in his arms. This inspires Magneto and he goes on to found the X-Men! Marvel then switched all the X-Titles(X-men, X-force, Wolverine, Cable, X-Factor, Generation-X, Excaliber, Uncanny X-Men) for 4 months, capping it with X-Men:Alpha (intro to the Age of Apocalypse) and ending with X-Men:Omega, returning to normal marvel universe with X-Men:Prime. The art work was great for this cross over, they were back into using the higher gloss pages, and they did a wonderful job with all the characters. They even put out two issues for the 'other' heros (The Fantastic 4, The Hulk, Iron Man, etc) not all had powers or such but they were also trying to overthrow Apocalypse.

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2003-07-14 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I learned that Jean Grey is, in fact . . . incredibly boring. She even manages to be incredibly boring as the incarnation of chaos and destruction, which takes some doing.

I couldn't agree more. While I did enjoy the Dark Phoenix saga and found her rather more interesting there than usual, I prefer Nightcrawler, Rogue, and Gambit. Jean and Scott are the straight men of the X-Men, in a way. The couragous, upright, and comparatively stable Good Guys (tm) who hold the team together and serve to make the others even more interesting by comparison. And how many times can one woman come back from the dead?

[identity profile] speakerender.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
And how many times can one woman come back from the dead?

Technically Jean hasn't died... Unless you count any being with her DNA dieing as her dieing. *grin* When she merged with Phoenix, the orginal body was left and sealed in a cocoon to heal (later found by the Fantastic 4). Phoenix killed herself (technical Jean death 1). Then there was Madyline Prye (clone), died during inferna (technical Jean death 2), and brought back by Nate Grey (X-Men). Of course they changed that to being another universe's Jean Grey... Then there is the Age of Apoclypse where Jean Grey dies (but she doesn't come back there!).

But besides, most of the X-men have been 'presumed' dead at one point or another, Jean just has a nack of providing a body to go along with her 'deaths'.

[identity profile] zodiaccat.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
*Glares at topic for 5 minutes*
Huh? What? Oh, a comment!
*picks part of post that is as far from point of post as possible*

The Baysox won! Great!
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I kid, I kid. But seriously; I'd have to agree with Jean Grey being slightly-less-than-even-remotely-interesting. Heck, her name is Grey! How much more bland can you get?

Also, they get the best actresses/voice actresses to play her in non-comic forms, yet force them to do impossibly boring portrayals! Such is pseudo-life, I guess.
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Well, failing to find a murtlap, I've resorted to context to help me. Will squid-skin do? Not too many animals have tentacles, so I'm hoping a squid is similar.