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melannen ([personal profile] melannen) wrote2017-03-17 04:57 pm
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I was prepping a laundry load of newly thrifted fabric and recently finished sewing projects, and decided to throw in my pincushion, as it was getting kind of grungy.

This pincushion is the one I made as my first project in 6th grade Home Ec, by sewing together two small squares of cloth and then stuffing them. I've been using it for twenty years.

After pulling all the pins out, and then all the visible needles, and then squeezing it for awhile to get all the hidden needles, I threw my hands up, took out the stuffing, and went through it that way.

There were forty-five needles hidden in it.*

...has anyone yet invented a pincushion that doesn't eat needles?

Anyway, I am still working on Kushiel. This week's FMK poll is still neck-and-neck, so your vote could turn it! You have until I get back from the St. Pat's dinner in an hour or two. I took the first three weeks' K books to the thrift store today (where I bought the fabric that is being washed. And two more books shhh) so I can't chicken out, augh. I am now finding myself wanting to buy books just because they will fill out a good set for an FMK poll. No, melannen! Bad! Bad!

In preparation for writing my thoughts on Kushiel, here is a poll for you about evolving terminology in reviews:

Poll #18094 Rape vs. rapeyness
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 71

If I describe a creative work as "rapey", I mean that it:

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has at least one rape in it
7 (9.9%)

has a lot of rape in it
13 (18.3%)

has unnecessary amounts of rape in it
31 (43.7%)

may or may not explicitly include rape, but has a lot of dubcon/noncon sort of situations or references
42 (59.2%)

may or may not explicitly include rape, but a general aura of rapiness hangs over it
42 (59.2%)

may or may not explicitly include rape, but uncritically includes many lovely exemplars of rape culture, such as victim-blaming or 'he couldn't help it he's an alpha male'.
56 (78.9%)

I will give you my answer in comments
5 (7.0%)

I would never use that word and don't find it a useful descriptor
2 (2.8%)

*I did not intend that as a metaphor for rape culture, and yet there it is.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2017-03-17 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Having done a word search. I have described two things as Rapey,

Silver Phoenix by Cindy Pon: which had three threats of rape, a tentacle monster and an actual rape in the first forty pages of a YA fantasy novel, with no reason I could see other than angst and to move the plot along.

Lock & Key the audio play, which had a gratuitous rape and murder of the MC's mom, and then pretty constant rape threats for as far as I listened. They... didn't really add anything?
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2017-03-17 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
My search illuminated that I tend to use it more in regards to a character "Rapey Dude" or a thing "Rapey backstory" than a general description.

I think "unnecessary" is bigger for me than "lots." It's just easier to roll over one time (though a book by Nora Roberts I read had a single deeply unnecessary rape scene of an unnamed character and no other rape, and pushed the author onto my do not read list forever).

(I also find that "unnecessary" and "uncritical rape culture" often to come as a bundle.)

There are certainly works with a fair bit of rape in them that I've liked, and liked a lot. Fifth Season is a recent example, but there it seemed to be an important part of what the author was trying to say about the world.

It's often difficult to pin down the balance between aura of rapiness and well handled.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2017-03-17 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad I didn't read any more! The one I had just did the villain PoV.

I've decided that just because I like someone's online persona does not mean I'm going to like their books, in fact is often seems to mean I WON'T like their books, which puzzles me.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2017-03-18 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
In relation to some of the conversation below, these are my metric for pro works. I would never use rapey to describe fic.