rachelmanija: (Princess Bride: Let me sum up)
rachelmanija ([personal profile] rachelmanija) wrote in [personal profile] melannen 2017-03-18 02:53 am (UTC)

I voted for "unnecessary amounts of rape" but would also have voted for "has at least one rape or rape threat or discussion of rape, and uncritically includes many lovely exemplars of rape culture, such as victim-blaming or 'he couldn't help it he's an alpha male'." I probably wouldn't use "rapey" to describe the latter if it had absolutely no actual rape or rape threats, but would instead say it's sexist or misogynist.

(Unnecessary amounts of rape without partaking in rape culture: Esther Friesner's Psalms of Herod is an anti-rape, anti-rape culture, feminist novel. And it has so goddamn much rape that I don't know how else to describe it. I could name a whole bunch of others like that. "Show that sexism is bad by having a rape every few pages" was especially big in 80s fantasy by women. ("Have a rape every few pages just because" was big in 80s fantasy by men.))

I also would have voted yes on "a general air of rapeyness" if it included at least one rape or rape threat or discussion of rape. Without that, it's back to sexist or misogynistic.

For lots of dubcon or noncon, assuming those terms are used in the fannish kink sense, I'd just call it dubcon or noncon.

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